St. Pauls Willimantic

A note to the LGBT community:

 

Our message to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgendered is the same as our message to everyone: Welcome; if you wish, you can become a full member of this very diverse and supportive community. You will be accepted as you are – St. Paul's is a safe place to be yourself – and there won't be any religious tests.

St. Paul's is not a “gay” church, but rather a small but heterogeneous community that includes lesbian, gay and transgendered members. Our previous priest was lesbian and her predecessor was gay, and Jackie, our present priest, is heterosexual. Our religious backgrounds, economic status, etc, etc, etc, also are quite varied. We believe in Christianity as a way of life - not a set of beliefs - and that's what holds us together.

Check out our website and blogs; if you can, stop in on a Sunday morning for our service and/or for coffee afterward (make it the first Sunday of the month and you'll get breakfast). No pressure, no hard questions, just welcome. If you have questions of any sort feel free to email us at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it – your privacy will be respected.

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LGBT Theology PDF Print E-mail
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Friday, 04 April 2008

Sooner or later, theology comes into the discussion – and as editor I get to put in my views....   It seems that much - if not most - of the scriptural basis for considering homosexuality as sin can reasonably be interpreted as referring to homosexual rape rather than homosexuality itself. Don't throw Leviticus into the argument unless you are willing to stop cherry picking and accept the whole thing (eg “Anyone who curses father or mother must die:” Leviticus 20:9).  Beyond that, there are conflicts and inconsistencies in the bible and we have to go with the higher, and more general interpretation.


The first thing we have to realize is that being gay, lesbian or transsexual is not a lifestyle choice. The Lake Wobegon motto fits: "Sumus Quid Sumus" - we are what we are. Does anyone really think that someone would choose to be gay with all its disadvantages and risks just because it would be fun? How about those gay people in places where it was or is extremely dangerous? It's the death penalty if you're found out in today's Shiite Iraq! Furthermore, there is evidence of physical differences in the brain associated with homosexuality. Animals have been known to display homosexual behavior. The claims that gay men can be made straight by proper training are nonsense - they merely show that there are circumstances under which we can suppress our true nature - at least for a while - and usually at considerable cost to ourselves!


If we accept God as a loving God then would this God create a whole class of people who are doomed to spend their life suppressing their own God given nature?  This hardly is a vision of a loving God!


If we look to Jesus, we see someone who often hung out with assorted marginalized people to the scandal of the proper and respectable citizens. He suggested that one had better be careful before judging someone else. Who did he condemn? It's summarized in the judgment section of Matthew 25: It's not gays and lesbians - no, the fire and brimstone are reserved for people who ignored those on the bottom. "I was hungry and you didn't give me food, thirsty and you didn't give me drink, a stranger and you didn't welcome me, sick and in prison ....." Not a word about "you were gay..."

 

The sanctity of marriage issue also is subject to all sorts of distortions. The view that the "one man one women" marriage is a sort of universal concept is nonsense. Marriage is a social construct that varies with time and place and can have many forms. Marriage evolves - look at the changes in our own society in just the last hundred years. How many people want to go back to the form of marriage in Jesus' time? One man and possibly many women; the women basically property; different definitions of, and punishments for, adultery applying to husband and wife....


The bit that gay marriage is a threat to traditional marriage also is pure nonsense. Yes, the institution of marriage in our country has major problems - but these problems  have nothing to do with civil unions or gay marriage. For children one can see some advantage to having parents of different genders - but the advantage of having two parents instead of one is of much greater importance. Research in this area has been distorted by some on the right. In any case, the difference between individuals far outweighs everything else. 


The argument that the purpose of marriage is to have children - be fruitful and multiply - may have had some substance a few thousand years ago. However, we are supporting our present population levels through the unsustainable consumption of resources such as oil, gas and water - all combined with enormous environmental damage. Therefore it is in the best interest of God's creation that we stop multiplying! (See our blog, The world in transformation, on this subject.)



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Some Transgender issues PDF Print E-mail
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Friday, 04 April 2008

We talk about GLBT people but mostly we mean GLB. Our society has reached the stage where, at least officially, it's ok - and fairly safe - to be gay or lesbian. People look pretty much the same whether gay, lesbian or straight. As a result, you can be out as gay - but when you walk down the street you're not automatically telling that to strangers. To come out as transgendered is different and much more difficult.

Gender identity is a complex subject with a wide range of issues. Just consider some of the the descriptive labels, such as Tgirl, drag queen, or shemale. Then there's the associated alphabet soup - TG, TS, CD, TV. Issues can range from relatively mild (CD, TV) to complete identity with the opposite gender (TG). (See the following wikis for a more extensive discussion of the LGBT label, and the transgender community.)

 

Gender identity problems are much more common for males (M to F) than for females (F to M). In general, masculine women are more accepted by society than feminine men. Tomboy is ok but sissy is not. (You can make the argument that in a male dominated society, the less common F to M person can get away with a little bit because that's going from a lower to a higher status. On the other hand, the more typical M to F  T-person is perceived as rejecting the position of strength and power and becoming a vulnerable "girl".)

 

Gender identity issues for a person can change a great deal with time. For example, a boy doesn't want to be tagged as a sissy - there are a lot of the problems that go with that designation! He may try hard to not act the part and to deny that part of himself. Later in life, he may accept and become comfortable with that part of himself. However, he still must deal with society and how it views and treats him. He also must deal with family issues which also change with time.

 

A lot of this is particularly difficult for an older people; after all, not too many years ago the possibility of these issues was not even acknowledged, never mind discussed! This tended to leave a T person feeling isolated - that they were the only person in the world who felt the way they did. At least nowadays the subject is out there and can be discussed...

 

However, coming out completely is still very difficult and very dangerous - especially for the male to female T person. For most of them, passing as female is not possible, and they will be read as a guy in a dress. There are lots of times and places where the problem with being perceived as a guy in a dress is not embarrassment but plain physical danger.

 

Spiritual issues also can arise. If God made me this gender why do I want to be the other? Am I violating God's intent for me? Specific answers depend on one's concept of God. (In the Episcopal church there is no single answer to this question. Visions of God range from the hard line biblical literalism of those on the far right to the non-deist view of Bishop Spong.) My short answer is that we are what we are. Then, if we believe in a loving God, we accept who we are and trust that our mission and ministry will be found in living a useful and honest life.


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The View at St. Paul's PDF Print E-mail
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Friday, 04 April 2008

The Episcopal church seems to make the headlines via parishes that leave because they don't approve of gay bishops, gay priests, blessing of same-sex couples, etc. (Most don't approve of women priests either – certainly not women bishops!) It's happened here in Connecticut - and the court battles are not over. Fortunately a majority of the Episcopal bishops, priests and congregations in the US do not support the conservative agenda. (Unfortunately this is not the case in much of the rest of the world.)

 

However, what really matters to us as individuals is the parish itself. In most ways a parish is quite independent and sets its own agenda - including its view of the LGBT community. Here at St. Paul's our basic view was settled a long time ago when an openly gay priest was installed. Those offended by the GLBT community left - and controversy left with them.

 

We have gay, lesbian and transgender parishioners and our previous priest was a lesbian. However, we are not a “gay” church – we are a diverse church. You will find poor and rich (actually more like middle class comfortable), different occupations, different backgrounds (including different religious backgrounds), some racial diversity, and the full range of sexuality and gender identity. All this in a small, friendly church where everyone is a full member of the family (of course this includes a few slightly strange relatives)!

 

Large organizations, such as the Episcopal church, like to be safe and not make the membership too uncomfortable (remember the civil right era when the mainstream churches mostly had to be dragged into the struggle?). As we can see, the right wing does not compromise. It also does not allow for the possibility of any scriptural interpretation besides their own. As a result, those of us on the opposite side are expected to make all the compromises in order to keep the organization together. Under many circumstances compromise can be a very reasonable thing. However, no compromise can be justified when issues of justice are at stake. Although our main concern is what happens here in Willimantic and its surroundings, we do add our voice to this ongoing battle when possible. To illustrate, the following is a resolution passed by the vestry (Episcopal-speak for the council or board) in October 2006:

I. Resolved: that the Vestry of St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Willimantic, CT, urges the Rt. Rev. Andrew Smith, Bishop of Connecticut, to lift immediately his inhibition regarding the blessing by clergy of same-sex unions and their officiating at civil unions.

II. Resolved: that the Vestry of St. Episcopal Church, Willimantic, CT, affirms our shared mission of Christian inclusiveness by endorsing the following paragraphs from a resolution recently adopted by the parishes of St. Francis Church, Stamford, and St. Paul's on the Green, Norwalk:

           We are committed to full inclusion of everyone, no matter who they are or where they may be on their faith journey, and we oppose any attempt to discriminate against any person based upon race, gender, age, sexual orientation, physical ability, or socio-economic status.

 

We will continue to invite those who are not yet here to experience God's radical welcome as an Episcopal church doing church differently and functioning as the kind of Episcopal church we believe God expects us to be. We are firm in our understanding that in God's economy there are no outcasts. And we welcome dialog with those who disagree with our perspective."

 

The diocese has lifted its ban on the blessing of same-sex unions - though there's confusion on the details. If you desire this blessing, or would like more details, please contact us at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it


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